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			<title>Sessions with spikes and high beta frequencies</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 18:46:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi,

I started using AVS fifteen years ago with the trusty, if limited, Voyager Galaxy, and for the last seven years I've had the superb MP Proteus...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,<br />
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I started using AVS fifteen years ago with the trusty, if limited, Voyager Galaxy, and for the last seven years I've had the superb MP Proteus :). <br />
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In the past I tended to only use mind machines to get into a theta state for self-hypnotic work and meditation, but in the last couple of years - especially after reading more on neurofeedback - I've started to veer towards more alpha and beta oriented sessions. <br />
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In fact my two favourites at the moment from the built-in Proteus sessions are &quot;#20 Concentration&quot; and &quot;#21 Creativity Enhancement&quot; - both of which mix light-alpha and beta, and leave me feeling much sharper and clearer afterwards.<br />
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So with that as a brief introduction - my questions are:<b><br />
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1)</b> What are the effects of frequency &quot;spikes&quot; in a session - when there are relatively rapid ramps from, say, 8hz to 28hz, and then immediately back down to 8hz again? These spikes occur in a large number of the Mindplace L&amp;S sessions - particularly the ones designed by Dr. Gerhard Bittner. <br />
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I believe that the traditional idea in designing entrainment sessions was to remain at any particular frequency for a few minutes, and perhaps include gradual ramps to a slightly higher/lower frequency, to give the brain time to &quot;lock on&quot; and remain entrained at each step. But many of the Mindplace sessions suggest Dr. Bittner had is a different principle in mind. I gather these sessions were created after a three-year study at the university of Essen, in Germany, so there is obviously significant research to support their design.<br />
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I am also familiar with the concept of &quot;Brain Brightening&quot; - AVS sessions with many rapid frequency shifts as a &quot;neural exercise&quot; program, but I'm not clear what happens on an eeg during such rapid shifts, nor what their purpose is in the Proteus sessions. <br />
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Has anyone got any insights into this? <br />
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<b>2)</b> High beta, as in the 20hz-28hz range, seems to be often associated with anxiety, and I gather that in neurofeedback for people with ADHD, the 12hz-18hz range is encouraged, whilst theta and high beta is discouraged. <br />
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However, personally I've benefited from Proteus sessions which spend quite some time in high beta, including the two I mentioned above. So, does anyone know (or suspect!) why the sessions were designed to include high beta, and what its positive benefits may be? <br />
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Thanks,<br />
<br />
Joseph</div>

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			<title>Directly switching off mind machines without first stopping session?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:14:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi there,

just wondering: Is it okay if I switch off my mind machine (I got all 3 of the MP machines) directly while the session is still running...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi there,<br />
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just wondering: Is it okay if I switch off my mind machine (I got all 3 of the MP machines) directly while the session is still running without first stopping?<br />
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(Please don't ask why I should stop in the middle of a session - thanks :D)<br />
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Thanks,<br />
Thomas</div>

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